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Wednesday, October 15, 2008
Oh My God! That Woman Swallowed a Baby!
Someone sent me a link to a Christian newswire service article about a burial for an aborted fetus. I thought, Christ, these fucking wackos are at it again, so I clicked the link to read the story.
Now, given that this is a Christian news service there’s always the good possibility that the facts are not how they are presented in the article, which is clearly designed for emotional impact. However, I did some quick math in my head and figured that this was just a hair under the end of the second trimester line. I wondered what level of development a baby would be at after reaching 23 weeks, so I did a little Googling and found this site.
Be sure and click the link to see the rendering of the child at that age. However, the part that really struck me was this.
One week later and the baby would have almost a 50% chance of survival. I’m still a supporter of abortion rights as a concept, but I think that as technology advances and premature babies are able to survive at greater rates and younger stages of development, there’s no justification for keeping the arbitrary SCOTUS-assigned second trimester rule.
(Brownie Points to the first person who gets the title of this post.)
Monday, March 17, 2008
Race to the Bottom
I have no particular love for Planed Parenthood because, despite my fervent belief in the availability of all forms of reproductive healthcare, I think they clearly exhibit a radical left-wing agenda. (They’re sort of a corporate Dr. Kervorkian, the wrong messenger with the right message.) At any rate, I have to come down on their side over this stunt.
If you go to the page you can see the transcript of the conversation, at least the salient section. I don’t think there was any racist intent in what she said. This is someone manning a phone bank, and her job is to collect donations from callers. Someone calls up and places her in a situation where she has to make a split-second decision about whether to reject the money or not, and she made a poor decision. I think every one of us has, at some point in time, been in a situation where we had to nod and agree with someone who was spouting off some horseshit about one controversial subject or another, and this to me seems like one of those times.
This, of course, will do nothing but stir up the flames of racism in America. Some anti-abortion group pulled a cheap stunt, thus proving they’re not any better than the radicals in Planned Parenthood. I’d be curious to find out how many times they had to make this call before they got the response they wanted.
For those of you who think that, aha!, this is evidence of the left’s secret racist agenda, ask yourself this. Suppose someone from DailyKos called John McCain’s donation line and said something similar to this, that he wanted to make a donation to McCain because he’ll protect white interests against the black agenda or something of that nature. And suppose that this operator, whose job it is to collect as much money as possible, played along in a similar manner. Would any of you think that this in any way proved racism on the part of John McCain or the Republican Party? Of course not, it’s a cheap stunt.
I think the real victim here is this woman manning the phone bank. For the rest of her life she’ll have this albatross hanging around her neck, the racist white woman who wants to abort black babies.
This anti-abortion group doesn’t give a fuck what their stunt has done to damage America, they only care about their petty agenda. They can’t win the argument on rhetoric so they resort to cheap stunts. Fucking disgraceful.
Saturday, February 09, 2008
Manwhore & Ebert
A part of my goals for the blog are to continue to bring movies to the table that are thought provoking and echo many of the discussions and passions of both our writers and readers here. I stumbled upon this movie on a date, who my lovely (she’s reading, I have to behave) *erm* turned me onto after we couldn’t see Rambo (Yes. I admit it. I WANTED to see Rambo!).
The title of the movie is 4 luni, 3 saptamani si 2 zile which means 4 months, 3 weeks, 2 days or some shit like that (in Romanian). It’s a film about a woman seeking an abortion in Romania in 1987 (just two years before the Berlin wall fell). Apparently (in this film, I hav eno idea about the reality of it) an abortion was illegal and this girl sought an illegal abortion. The movie has an interesting dynamic, but be forewarned it is a very tough watch. I wanted to discuss the movie from the angle of the limits of prohibition. These two characters go througnh a world of shit to get this illegal abortion, and maybe this is the intended effect of the prohibition. Please enter under the fold for the movie spoiler and the rest of the debate. Yet another ‘you can’t miss out on this debate BTW:
Soooooo, RTFLC readers and commenters this is another one of those knock down, drag ‘em out debate about the limits of abortion. Let me be the first to say that I have (in my old age) somewhat averted my previous libertarian ‘live and let live’ attitudes toward abortion, but I still feel the need for an element of society to allow for this avenue. I personally find it a sad and disgusting practice, but this movie highlights just how disgusting things can get when they feel they can’t turn anywhere else. Please allow me to explain.
I tried to put myself in the father position as an observer in the film. The film surrounds two girls in college, almost at the end of semester, and roomates in a dorm. One of the girls is pregnant. The other roomate being a friend has decided to help her roomate get an illegal abortion. They contact an abortionist, who asks the girls to do some very specific things. Meet in person, get a hotel room in a specific hotel, and agree to the terms of his assistance.
To get to the root of it the movie surrounds this seemingly good girlfriend making all of the arrangements, and botching afew elements so the secondary character can get the abortion she wants (the movie does not elude to why the girl would like the abortion done). The girl finds the abortionist, who it turns out wants to rape both girls for the abortion, and does so after debate. One after the other.
He administers a probe afterward and leaves. the main character has romised her boyfreind she would go to a family function, so then leaves the girl whom has recieved the abortion (under advice not to do so) and goes to the function. She can’t look her boyfriend or his family in the eye during the dinner. She is fixated on this desire to remain in contact with her friend she needs to monitor (There is an element of danger because abortion is a high stakes crime, and ANY evidence of one will land all parties in jail for a LOOOONNNG time. This was the justification for the abortionist to rae the girls. He was aware of what his crime would do to him and them. A ‘bond’ he called it). After she has trouble getting in touch with her friend over the phone, she leaves, but not before warning her boyfriend of what she was partaking in and telling him she might be pregnant herself.
She then returns to the hotel, and finds her roomate okay and the abortion successful. She was advised of how to dispose of the fetus, and the roomate requests it to be buried (morals, after all this? Niggah pleez.). She disposes of it and the movie ends after they romise to never discuss the event.
I thought to myself, if I was the father of either one of these girls, I would kill the abortionist and wonder where communication went in my family. I would hope I could raise a woman that was strong enough to understand a moral compass, and I would hope I was man enough to realize that she would become an adult with a sexual drive, just like my son would. I would want to discuss with her consequences in life. I would want her to tie love and sex into an equation, and I would want her to think sex and ‘playing house’ go hand in hand.
I would not want her to need to sneak around and do something like this, because I had drawn a black and white line about her consequences for sex. That’s my daughter. If I were a father, and I had heard about this I would die, emotionally. On every level, and I would attribute all of the blame to the intolerance and black and white treatment of fundamental beliefs.
To me this is the danger fundamental anything breeds in society. Underneath it all, the most horrible of all of us are lurking. Feeding, breeding and thriving off of secrecy and the hardline rules we create in society. Some, like murder, are rules that do not need debate. However, an abortion is something we’ve constructed ourslelf. If it were my daughter, I would embrace the event and encourage her to have a child. It’s family. I would NOT want to hear that out of moral shame she went off and got raped so she could abort the child, for ANY reason.Close this post...
Thursday, September 13, 2007
The Use of Force
Ah, the glories of living in a totalitarian state.
Seriously, what kind of a fucking moron would voluntarily move to a country like this?
Tuesday, May 08, 2007
I Would Never Do What I Did
Here’s a fascinating little statistic.
Hmmm. Ninety percent, huh? If you go by public opinion polls, however, the number of Americans who say that they would support such a decision is relatively small. Here are some numbers. There are a number of polls cited, but generally speaking roughly 60% of Americans seem to state their opposition to a procedure of this type.
60% claim that they would be opposed to an abortion in a situation like this. However, when actually confronted with the situation, 90% of them choose to do it.
As the British writer and Nobel Laureate John Galsworthy once said, “Idealism increases in direct proportion to one’s distance from the problem.”
Wednesday, April 25, 2007
El Feto Ha Sido Termina
There’s goings-on down South.
Pretty fucking sad, isn’t it, when Mexico makes more sense than the US. Just think, when abortion is successfully outlawed in this country, Mexico will have another economic boom as all of America’s pregnant teenage girls make a run for the border.
Wait, what am I thinking. There aren’t going to be any teenage girls. The abstinence-only education programs will make sure that no teenager ever has sex. My God, the plan is FOOLPROOF!
Wednesday, April 18, 2007
The End of the PBA
And thus it begins.
I gotta side with the court on this one. This type of procedure is a vile, vulgar practice. I’m not against abortion in general as a concept, but this procedure, which involved “partially removing the fetus intact from a woman’s uterus, then crushing or cutting its skull to complete the abortion.” You wouldn’t be able to do that to a dog, and you sure as hell shouldn’t be doing it to an unborn baby.
Abortion is one thing. This was something else entirely. You can be in favor of a concept without supporting every conceivable aspect of that concept, and this is one of those cases.
Tuesday, April 10, 2007
Here’s an absolutely brilliant column by a Harvard political ethist point out some glaring logical flaws and inconsistencies in the Republican stem cell position.
A damn fine point. If aborting a blastocyst is murder, then we should start treating it like it is. Then there’s this.
There’s got to be at least one anti-abortiion type on this blog who can provide a logical refutation to this argument, right? Because I’ll be goddamned if I can think of one.
Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Delusion, thy name is the Missouri GOP.
That’s right, folks. If only we could stop people from murdering the unborn, that would stop them Messicans from sneaking across the border.
See, this is a great example of what I am talking about. There isn’t a blanket need for workers. Mexican doctors aren’t sneaking across the border. These are poverty-stricken people who come to America in search of a better life for their families, and they come here because they are willing to work for less, doing shittier jobs, than their American counterparts. It’s simple economics. They’re not filling a need for workers, they’re creating a demand for workers who will do the same job for less. You know, that’s called capitalism and the free market, and its something the Republican Party used to believe in. Now, it’s all about fetuses and them durn homersekshuls.
Wednesday, October 18, 2006
A reader named Lib (liberal?) sends in the following email.
Friday, October 13, 2006
Kills Fetuses Dead
This is just so stupidly hilarious that I have to share.
Two grown men in cockroach costumes fighting with an elected legislator over abortion. Welcome to politics in America, folks.
Wednesday, March 08, 2006
Freedom from Responsibility
I absolutely fucking love this, because it’s true.
Give ‘em hell, bruthas!
Thursday, February 02, 2006
What A Pill
Once again, the radical lefties impose their will on everyone else through the awesome force of law.
Wal-Mart is a conservative company, they always have been. When they refused to sell music with profane lyrics, record labels began releasing edited versions of their products. This wasn’t some gross violation of free speech rights, it was Wal-Mart, as a private entity, simply choosing not to sell a particular product. The morning after pill is exactly the same deal. If they, as a company, choose not to sell a particular pill for business or moral or any other reason, then they should be permitted to do so without the radical feminist harpies descending upon them with their manicured claws prepared for battle.
Saturday, January 28, 2006
A Matter of Rights
Sometimes the British attitude is better, like in this case.
Why is the British way better? Because it allows for some flexibility based upon society’s ever-changing values. Here in America we tend to see things in terms of absolute rights, which is a result of our country being founded by men who believed deeply in this concept. So when it comes to the issues that divide society, people tend to fragment into groups who believe in one type of polarized absolutist position based upon rights. Abortion on demand is a right, claim the pro-abortion folks. Abortion is a violation of the rights of the fetus, claim abortion opponents.
The problem with this approach is that it sets up abortion as an all-or-nothing proposition. In other words, abortion is available only so long as you have a Supreme Court which believes the Constitution provides a right to one. As soon as the makeup of the court changes, which it appears is about to happen, then that “right” can disappear overnight. Either the pro-abortion groups are completely placated or the anti-abortion groups are, there is no middle ground.
Of course, as simple logic dictates, most people in America do not accept a polarized position on anything, and always see some kind of middle ground. The attitudes of Americans are generally similar to those of the British. Generally speaking, the American attitude is that abortion is not a good thing, and should not be available on demand, but it should not be removed entirely. The issue is that our legislative branch is entirely too gutless to tackle the abortion issue themselves, simply because of how polarizing it is for so many people, so they are more than happy to sit idly by and allow the judiciary to assume the legislative role. See, the judiciary is comprised of lifetime appointments, and is therefore unaccountable to the voting public, unlike legislators. It’s much easier for a legislator to rail against a judicial decision he doesn’t like ex post facto than it is for him to choose a position and argue in favor of it himself.
Our way sucks. The British way is better.
Monday, January 23, 2006
Drugs and Babies
In the preceding post I asked the following question.
In the ensuing discussion Yahonza remarked:
I think this is an important point of discussion, so I decided to respond in a separate post. Allow me to elaborate on my point.
I am against the war on drugs. Not because I think drugs are a good thing, or because I think society is better off with drug use, but because I recognize the futility of the fight. I also see the astonishing degree of harm that has been inflicted on society as a result of this war. For example, look at the number of lives that have been ruined due to harsh prison sentences due to mandatory minimum sentencing rules for drug offenders. How many young black men have done a long stretch in prison because they decided to sell a little weed when they were in their teens? Then, after ten years, they get out, convicted felons, jaded toward the world. As conservatives, we encourage communities to find solutions to their problems themselves, but this is quite hard to do when a significant portion of your able-bodied male population is either incarcerated or has a criminal record and is therefore unemployable in all but the most menial of jobs. The war on drugs has done nothing but provide astonishing profit streams to criminal enterprise, which in turn inflicts untold amounts of damage on the social fabric.
Drugs destroy lives. The drug war destroys lives. It’s a matter of value judgments. What cost are we as a society prepared to endure in order to fight against drugs, a product which a significant percentage of the population wants to indulge in? Is the cure actually worse than the disease? I think it is. Opposing the drug war does not mean supporting drugs, it means that we recognize that drugs are a permanent evil in society, and that there are better, more intelligent ways they can be fought. It is the pigheaded moral absolutism of our political establishment that has enabled a well-intentioned mission, to protect America’s youth from the scourge of drugs, to snowball into the massive liberty-destroying leviathan that we see before us today.
Which brings me to my point about abortion. I consider myself pro-choice, not because I think abortion is a good thing or that I encourage abortion. I have said many times that I find abortion a vile, reprehensible procedure. If I were female I certainly would never choose to have one. That being said, I think that we really need to have a serious discussion about the costs to society than an actual ban on abortion will bring about. For example, there are going to be tens of thousands of babies born to low-income women, who have no spousal support. These children are going to need public assistance money, which require a massive expansion of the welfare state, funded by enormous tax increases or copious deficit spending. Welfare mothers are more likely to become pregnant than educated women from more affluent families. With more welfare mothers getting pregnant, and abortion not an option, we’re going to end up with even more welfare mothers. The chances of a young woman being able to work hard to get an education and get off welfare decrease significantly when she has a child she has to feed and raise at the same time. So, one result of a ban on abortion will be a guarantee of decades of Americans mired in poverty, spending a lifetime suckling at the government teat. Babies of welfare mothers will be more likely to end up on drugs or in a gang or in prison. This damages society as a whole. As mentioned above, this will result in even more numbers of young men incarcerated. When they are incarcerated they are unable to provide for their children, nor provide a father figure role. This will significantly increase the likelihood that these babies themselves will end up in prison. Another self-perpetuating societal drain.
The notion of protecting the rights of unborn babies is a noble and just one. It cannot be denied that there has been a great cost to the fabric of society due to abortion. The question we face now is, what damage to society are we willing to endure? To get back to my original question, if it could be shown conclusively that an abortion ban would result in a substantial degree of damage to society as a whole, far exceeding the damage currently done by abortion, would you still support the ban? In other words, in your zeal to remove the evil of abortion from society, are you willing to confront the even greater evil of the consequences of all the subsequent unwanted births?
I don’t support legalization of drugs because I like drugs, and I don’t support abortion rights because I like abortion. I simply recognize that, in both cases, society is choosing a noble battle and fighting it in exactly the wrong way.
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