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Protest Me, Hardy
by Lee

This is priceless.  I was looking through the BBC News forums, where readers can leave their comments on various news issues.  I find this an invaluable resource in gauging just how completely wrong most of the UK is in their opinion of life in America.  (Getting your idea of America from the BBC and Michael Moore movies will do that to you.) Since the Beeb is a left-wing news site, most of the Americans who leave comments there are barking moonbat lefties, one of whom posted the following.

Thanks, congratulations and even a toast—yes, a toast—to all those who have been doing the hard work with the grand jury, as well as to all those of us everywhere who are united as never before in the cause of Justice. May the Truth, at long last, prevail! Not a moment left to waste, my friends, and make every moment (and every word!) count! Victory is at hand, and it will be sweet if we each do exactly as our duty commands us to—remembering fearless, invincible Nelson, among other good soldiers who came before, and have fought since, and fight today. And to all those who write, who shape through language the events of our times: Godspeed to all those who serve the right cause!

Maria Ashot, Berkeley, United States

Fascinating, isn’t it, that some raving Berkeley dunce would actually use Admiral Lord Nelson, victor of the Battle of Trafalgar, as an example to be emulated.  If Nelson were doing his thing today people like Maria Asshat from Berkeley would be holding massive protests, with giant papier mache heads and hippie drum circles, comprised of hirsute women in sandals and ethnic skirts holding homemade “Nelson = Hitler” signs.

Posted by Lee on 10/29/05 at 02:17 AM (Discuss this in the forums)

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Posted by on 10/29/05 at 04:30 AM from Canada

Fascinating, isn’t it, that some raving Berkeley dunce would actually use Admiral Lord Nelson, victor of the Battle of Trafalgar, as an example to be emulated.  If Nelson were doing his thing today people like Maria Asshat from Berkeley would be holding massive protests, with giant papier mache heads and hippie drum circles, comprised of hirsute women in sandals and ethnic skirts holding homemade “Nelson = Hitler” signs.

LOL.  That was funny.  It reminded me of the counseling scene in the first Austin Powers Movie where Dr Evil tells us, “the details of my child hood are quite inconsequential actually….”. 
What this Barking Berkeley Moonbat does not realize is that the BBC Webmaster only posted her comment so the Brits reading could laugh at the silly American invoking the name of Nelson.  After all Nelson was not invincible he was shot by a sniper at Trafalgar.

Posted by Sean M. on 10/29/05 at 04:55 AM from United States

If Nelson were doing his thing today people like Maria Asshat from Berkeley would be holding massive protests, with giant papier mache heads and hippie drum circles, comprised of hirsute women in sandals and ethnic skirts holding homemade “Nelson = Hitler” signs.

Then I guess Napoleon’s forces would be the Minutemen and Revolutionaries.

Posted by InsipiD on 10/29/05 at 10:27 AM from United States

Trust me, Americans are far less accurate in their opinions of life in the UK.  For the record, it is foggy in London maybe once or twice a year, it rains twice as much in New York, and Tony Blair is highly unpopular.

...And the food doesn’t suck nearly as bad as people think.  My opinions of Britain are not formed by watching Harry Potter and Fawlty Towers any more than a smart Brit’s are by Adam Sandler movies and Baywatch.  It’s just the the BBC is so biased in its news coverage that they should have to put News in quotes with an asterisk next to it with an explaination that it’s news with a strong editorial bend.  Given that headline, most knowledgeable Americans would laugh out loud at the inaccuracy.  I don’t believe that our media is as biased about reporting anything about the UK.  And notice that the American Left does not criticize Tony Blair as they remember that it was their Ragin’ Cajun that got him elected.  They know that he’s not a ‘traitor’ for joining up with Bush, because they know that a Democrat here would’ve eventually been forced to do the same thing in Iraq.  As for Bush and Blair being chummy, I would have to say that Blair, Bush, and Clinton seem like three of the most likeable people to rule powerful countries for a long time.  Their personalities make them seem less snotty and more friendly.  Further, they have a common language, so you have to stay close to the ones you can speak to.

Posted by salinger on 10/29/05 at 10:58 AM from United States

I wish I could find pickled onions here in the states like they sell in the fish and chip shops in the UK.

Posted by Lee on 10/29/05 at 11:13 AM from United States

Trust me, Americans are far less accurate in their opinions of life in the UK.

Oh, undoubtedly.  The distinction is that Americans don’t run around with a huge chip on their shoulder about how intellectually superior they are.  So many Brits I know are simply convinced that they know everything about America, from the way we’re all paranoid gun nuts cowering in our houses; how we live in a culture of fear, paralyzed until the next terrorist attack; how we all watch FOX News, which makes us believe everything that our Fearless Leader tells us, and so on.

I love the Brits as a people, but I’ve never met so many ill-informed people who were absolutely convinced of their own superiority.  In that respect they’re exactly like American liberals.

Posted by Lee on 10/29/05 at 11:21 AM from United States

If you want an example of real anti-American groupthink, you need to go across the English Channel or the North Sea, though I appreciate that the language barrier makes their debates less accessible.

I know that area well, having gown up in both Aberdeen and Stavanger.

Posted by Drkage2 on 10/29/05 at 11:42 AM from United States

There’s a good (but lengthy) podcast on Lord Horatio Nelson to celebrate the 200th anniversary of Trafalgar over at Ockham’s Razor.

Posted by on 10/29/05 at 01:04 PM from Japan

I keep thinking about towing the line.

Yeah, I’m strange.

Posted by Drumwaster on 10/29/05 at 01:16 PM from United States

Stogy, as has already been established, it isn’t “towing the line”, but rather “toeing the line”.

Now that you know the truth, it is incumbent on you to go forth and spread the word to all of the other people who keep getting shit wrong.

Maybe it will serve as the necessary first step of people who ask themselves “what else have I gotten wrong my whole life? Is it possible that the Democrats are wrong, too?”

Probably not many, since most of them will jerk those knees and think of the same response you just did, but even a few changing their life in favor of reality will make it worth it.

Posted by on 10/29/05 at 01:21 PM from Japan

Stogy, as has already been established, it isn’t “towing the line”, but rather “toeing the line”.

Yeah, I know, I have been keeping up. But towing the line is a lot more intriguing.

After all why be right? There are so many more interesting possibilities when you are wrong. 

;)

Posted by Drumwaster on 10/29/05 at 01:29 PM from United States

After all why be right? There are so many more interesting possibilities when you are wrong.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the New Motto of the DNC, just in time for the ‘06 elections…

Posted by on 10/29/05 at 01:31 PM from Japan

Say what you like, DW. It’s all just oil off a duck’s back to me!

Posted by Drumwaster on 10/29/05 at 01:33 PM from United States

I thought you lived in Japan, not Alaska...?

Posted by mikeguas on 10/29/05 at 01:51 PM from United States

OT, but Bob Geldof won’t be doing anymore Live 8s.

Geldof’s daughters FIFI TRIXIBELLE, TIGER LILY, PIXIE and PEACHES are relieved at their dad’s decision, because an old man hosting such an event would be “embarrassing”.

With names like this, how could you really be embarrassed by anything?

<a href="http://contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/geldof no more live 8” target="_new">Source</a>

Posted by FairAndBalanced on 10/29/05 at 02:20 PM from Netherlands

having grown up in both Aberdeen and Stavanger

Excellent, but what does that prove? That you’re an expert on how Europeans felt about the Reagan presidency?!

The distinction is that Americans don’t run around with a huge chip on their shoulder about how intellectually superior they are.

Self-knowledge, that’s good.

There’s good and bad on both sides of the Atlantic. Let’s agree on that.

I find this an invaluable resource in gauging just how completely wrong most of the UK is in their opinion of life in America.

Self-fulfilling prophecy?

If you are intellectually honest(not superior), you would also be looking for some reports from the major European media where they were quite right in their reporting (or criticism!).

Here’s a challenge: what American news media is on the same level as BBC World?

A bigger challenge: what American news media would be on the same level in their (in-depth?)reporting of European affairs as BBC World is in their reporting of American affairs?

That’s what I thought.

Have a nice weekend!

Posted by Drumwaster on 10/29/05 at 02:29 PM from United States

what American news media is on the same level as BBC World?

Maybe CNN, but even they aren’t THAT liberal.

C’mon, gimme a tough one.

what American news media would be on the same level in their (in-depth?)reporting of European affairs as BBC World is in their reporting of American affairs?

That’s like asking “what Podunk farm report would be on the same level of their political reporting as the Washington Post or New York Times DC reporters?”

(IOW, if European politics were at all important to the average American, the news channels would be reporting on it. Since it isn’t, they don’t. See how easy that was?)

Posted by mikeguas on 10/29/05 at 02:37 PM from United States

A bigger challenge: what American news media would be on the same level in their (in-depth?)reporting of European affairs as BBC World is in their reporting of American affairs?

Accurately or inaccurately? Biased or nonbiased? All the information in the world doesn’t help you much if it comes from a slanted source.

Posted by InsipiD on 10/29/05 at 04:34 PM from United States

A bigger challenge: what American news media would be on the same level in their (in-depth?)reporting of European affairs as BBC World is in their reporting of American affairs?

BBC world has to do some reporting of American because most of their audience is either American or businessmen who need to know about America.  As for the depth of their reporting, please!  They cherry-pick what they want to say because they have to to make the US seem smaller than Europe as a world influence.  The BBC sometimes digs pretty deep in the shitpile for those cherries, so their reporting is technically in-depth.

(IOW, if European politics were at all important to the average American, the news channels would be reporting on it. Since it isn’t, they don’t. See how easy that was?)

Right you are there, Kenny. 

Trust me, Americans are far less accurate in their opinions of life in the UK.

I don’t trust you.  As a baseline, let’s just go ahead and say that 90% of both populations are essentially ignorant both ways.  Out of that remaining 10% on each side, perhaps 5% each have a group that is generally knowledgeable about the other.  The remaining 5% have very muddled ideas with the Brit 5% being perhaps a little smarter about the US than the Americans are of the UK because of the US’s stronger cultural influence.  That’s in spite of, not because of the BBC.  Sky News and CNN are better sources and folks with any international interest are likely to have seen all 3.  Americans with interest in international affairs are likely to have seen CNN and Fox News and not bothered with network.  Both groups probably get a fair amount from the Internet.  To put it fairly, 92.5% of Britons don’t know shit about America, while 94% of Americans don’t know shit about Britain.  BFD.  The real point is that everyone is ignorant.

Posted by InsipiD on 10/29/05 at 06:54 PM from United States

HRH Chuck aims to lecture Bush on Islam.

Mere months after England was attacked from within just as we were, Prince Charles wants to tell Americans that we are being insensitive to Muslims?!  In the immortal words of Jerry Lee Lewis, “Aingland can kiss my ass!”

Posted by Drumwaster on 10/29/05 at 07:00 PM from United States

I think that last word is actually pronounced “ayuss”.

M’jusayin…

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