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The Big Split?
by Lee

I’ve said a hundred times that I’d like to see the GOP die, and in its place arise two parties, one more libertarian in nature and the other one full of the Christian zombies who seem to be running things now.  Well, apparently I’m not the only one.

With former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani leading in many national polls for the Republican Party nomination in 2008, some conservative groups are looking for ways to defeat him. One conservative activist has even threatened a religion-focused third party challenger if he wins the nomination next year, according to a blog post at the Christian Broadcasting Network.

“From the moment Giuliani is nominated—if they are stupid enough to do it next February—a third party will be started emphasizing pro-family issues and conservative economic and foreign policies, and probably within a decade or two that 3rd party will be the dominant party along with the pro-abortion and left-wing Democrat Party,” according to an e-mail written by an anonymous, prominent conservative activist. Excerpts of the e-mail were posted by David Brody, CBN News’s Senior National Correspondent.

At a weekly luncheon hosted at the conservative Free Congress Foundation, Brody also noted that a group called Conservatives For Peace was handing around a leaflet warning against a Giuliani nomination.

“If the Republican Party nominates Rudy Giuliani as its candidate for either president or vice president, I will personally work to defeat the GOP ticket in 2008,” the flyer reads. “If the Republican Party nominates him, it is saying to the American people that it has lost all purpose except the raw political desire to hold power. It will be time to put the GOP out of its misery.”

Brody puts these warnings in perspective, but still suggests they are notable.

“Look, this group isn’t a Focus on the Family or a Family Research Council but it gives you a sense of how some are already plotting to destroy Giuliani,” he writes.

It just shows how far some people will go to protect their God-given right to hate fags.

Posted by Lee on 05/30/07 at 09:34 AM (Discuss this in the forums)

Comments


Posted by on 05/30/07 at 09:49 AM from United States

And when that happens the GOP will suddenly appeal to a lot of moderates again.  Then the fundie-tards can be marginalized and ignored while sane and reasonable people get on with things.

Seriously, history will look back at the time when the fundies took over the GOP as a very bad time for everyone.

Posted by choralblogger on 05/30/07 at 11:51 AM from United States

And when that happens the GOP will suddenly appeal to a lot of moderates again.  Then the fundie-tards can be marginalized and ignored while sane and reasonable people get on with things.

Seriously, history will look back at the time when the fundies took over the GOP as a very bad time for everyone.

Couldn’t agree more.  I’m willing to lose one election so that the GOP can reform and become a party of mainstream ideals again.

Posted by on 05/30/07 at 11:59 AM from United States

The vast majority of Christians I know support:
1. Personal responsibility
2. Low taxes
3. Charitable giving

Very few:
1. “hate fags”
2. Force their views on others

We could do without Fred Phelps (who is not a Christian) and his kind to be sure.  Do not lump us into one basket.

Posted by on 05/30/07 at 12:15 PM from United States

The vast majority of christians aren’t fundie-tards either.  I’d go so far as to say most of them are moderate Democrats - it’s the extremists that took over the GOP and ruined it.

As for hating fags - all you need is to start looking to the WWII generation and scrape the surface a little bit on a lot of them.  While “hate” may be too strong a word, they certainly “disapprove” of the “choice” they made to be gay.

Most xtians don’t try to convert others, but when you run into constant door knockers trying to tell you about the glories of their particular jesus cult, they give the rest of them a bad name.  Also, every single door knocker I’ve run into was an extremist GOP fundie-tard.

Posted by on 05/30/07 at 01:17 PM from United Kingdom

That’s probably the best way to keep the Democrats in power for a generation.

Posted by GravyPan on 05/30/07 at 01:51 PM from United States

“If the Republican Party nominates him, it is saying to the American people that it has lost all purpose except the raw political desire to hold power. It will be time to put the GOP out of its misery.”

I’m sure the irony of this statement isn’t lost on anyone here.

Posted by on 05/30/07 at 01:55 PM from United States

If the Republicans don’t wake up they will go the way of the Whigs. You, know, the party they REPLACED?

Posted by John Cross on 05/30/07 at 02:56 PM from United States

This shouldn’t be a surprise.....the social libertarians and rational conservatives are the ones that voted Bush into power in ‘04...many with their noses firmly affixed between their thumb and forefinger.

Posted by West Virginia Rebel on 05/30/07 at 04:55 PM from United States

People voted for Bush Jr. because Kerry was clearly a douchebag. I dare say if Bush could run in 2008 he would get his ass handed to him.

The radical fundies wanted to get their agenda through. They failed with Reagan and Bush Senior because they both knew it was better to keep these cretins at arm’s length. Bush Jr. needed their votes, so he ran with his “Compassionate conservative” message in 2000 (translation: I’ll say what I need to say to appeal to moderates and give you folks what you want later on.) The WOT kept the social issues on the back burner for a while, but Team Bush made them a priority in his second term and the GOP followed his lead like the lemmings they are. They got relegated to minority party status for their troubles.

Those who don’t remember their history are doomed to keep losing elections because of it.

Posted by John Cross on 05/30/07 at 05:08 PM from United States

Know what...I don’t remember GWB ever running as a pure conservative...the Religious Right isn’t conservative.  They are as liberal as the Left, except they want the national resources spent on pro-life and ‘Christian’ causes.  They just don’t want money funding those things that they see as ‘liberal’.

In fact, the terms ‘conservative’ and ‘liberal’ have come to be so bastardized....it’s a wonder we still use them.

Posted by on 05/30/07 at 07:10 PM from United States

The religious right is far bigger bogeyman in Lee’s fevered imagination than in reality. As for Giuliani, he credits gun control for his cleanup of NYC… ‘nuff said

Posted by Mister Minit on 05/31/07 at 04:56 PM from Europe

.the Religious Right isn’t conservative.  They are as liberal as the Left

Does the term “liberal” have any consistent meaning anyone?

I’ve posted this from my brand new phone btw.

Posted by Mister Minit on 05/31/07 at 04:57 PM from Europe

Not the EU flag again!

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